CT4-V and CT5-V revealed- 2.7T with 320Hp/369 lb-ft and 3.0V6TT with 355HP /400lb-ft respectively

"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt)
05/30/2019 at 19:10 • Filed to: ct4-v, ct5-v, cadillac, cadillac v-series, cadillac CT4, Cadillac CT5, Cadillac CT4V, Cadillac CT5V

CT4 v

CTS6-V, CT5-V, CT4-V

As a reminder, CT4 replaces the ATS, CT5 replaces the CTS

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DISCUSSION (47)

Jordan > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:06

I DEMAND AN LS!

Saracen > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:06

Huh? They put the new Silverado engine in a sport sedan?

PatBateman > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:07

Dear Cadillac,

YOU STUPID PIECES OF ABSOLUTE DOG CRAP, WHY IN THE EVER-LOVING HELL DID YOU THROW THE 3.0 TT IN THE CT5?! THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO INTO THE LITTLE CAR, THE BLACKWING V8 WAS SUPPOSED TO GO INTO THE BIGGER CAR! EITHER ACTUALLY FUCKING TRY TO COMPETE OR JUST BE A “LUXURY” SUV MAKER LIKE MOTHER GM WANTS YOU TO. I WAS ROOTING FOR YOU; INSTEAD YOU BECAME A SUBSIDIARY OF BUICK.

Respectfully,

Patrick Bateman

Vice President, Pierce & Pierce

CompactLuxuryFan > Saracen
05/30/2019 at 19:09

Wait. That 2.7T is the 4-banger?!

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Saracen
05/30/2019 at 19:09

Yup. Funny thing they had a poll on GM Authority and this had the lowest #of votes

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/05/what-engine-will-power-the-cadillac-ct4-v/

Kinja'd!!!

LastFirstMI is my name > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:11

These look like they were imported from Korea. Maybe North Korea.

Saracen > CompactLuxuryFan
05/30/2019 at 19:11

I surmised it had to be...it’s the only GM 2.7T I know of, and their power and torque ratings match.

Saracen > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:13

They sure messed this one up. The CT4-V should at least get the 400bhp version of the 3.0TT, and the CT5-V should definitely get the Blackwing V8.

PatBateman > Saracen
05/30/2019 at 19:15

It appears that Cadillac spent years developing the Blackwing Hot V8 just to throw it into the CT6 for a few months and then chunk it into the trash.

This is horrible, horrible outcome for these “performance” vehicles.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > LastFirstMI is my name
05/30/2019 at 19:16

Kinja'd!!!

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Saracen
05/30/2019 at 19:21

I read that they’re going this way to lower the price and make the V series more accessible.

https://www.carscoops.com/2019/05/2020-cadillac-ct4-and-ct5-v-to-be-most-affordable-v-models-ever/

The comparable ATS-V had a turbo3.6 V6 with 450+HP but it cost $70K or more and no one bought that. Perhaps that is why they went this direction.

The numbers are good on the CT4 but they are not worthy of V, A V-Sport maybe. CT5-V should have had at least 400HP also.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > PatBateman
05/30/2019 at 19:25

The numbers seem OK in a vacuum but look at the competition and even prior V Cars, it’s obvious they are nothing more than V-Sport cars posing as V cars. Apparently Cadillac wants to lower the price and make “V” series more affordable.

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:27

In the words of a Minnesotan, oof da. I like that the ct4 didn’t get the weird c pillar treatment but a 2.7 inline 4? No manual?

As a person on the verge of a good salary and a daughter soon to be out of day care I’m on the verge of being their target market and I gotta say; on paper it’s not doing much for me. S3 gets me a proven dual clutch auto ; 240i gets me a manual option.

412GTI > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:29

Wait, did the CT-4 just debut or was it out before. I think the CT-5 is the one with the weird DLO on the rear door. Damnit Cadillac, I’m a car guy and can’t keep up with this and the new names.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Jordan
05/30/2019 at 19:30

Those days are long gone. Better save up and get an older V series while you can or a Chevy SS

DarkCreamyBeer > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:30

I hate the CT5 rear seat door window treatment. Looks like this:

Kinja'd!!!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:31

Breaking News: The base C8 has the 4.3 and a CVT.

It seems like GM is trying their hardest to make sure they have the lowest sales.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > 412GTI
05/30/2019 at 19:32

Regular CT5 debuted a month ago: https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-cadillac-ct5-is-your-very-turbocharged-cts-rep-1833369834

Regular CT4 was never revealed, they went straight to CT4-V today as the first variant to be ever released. regular one will follow.

CT5-V was also released today.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > DarkCreamyBeer
05/30/2019 at 19:33

Yup, I saw it in person at the NY auto show. Terrible design and it leads to a huge blindspot in the C pillar from the inside

Glad they spared it on the Ct4

dogisbadob > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:35

CT5 CTS
XTS XT5

Also, the CT5 looks like it should be a hatchback

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:38

Dear Cadillac,

You’ve turned the V badge into an appearance package, and it’s pathetic. Both of these cars are a step backwards from the current ATS and literally every CTS. TBH I think I’m fine with you dying as a brand now.

Thanks,

Bman76

Saracen > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:39

Agreed, it would totally make sense if these were V-Sports.

404 - User No Longer Available > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:49

Kinja'd!!!

I’ll give you that the interior looks gorgeous, major step up from the ATS. But that is a very low bar to beat.. .

PatBateman > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:56

It’s not just the power numbers; it’s everything revolving around these cars’ debut. Cadillac’s announcement was muted, their social media coverage was non-existent... It just felt like a total clusterfuck from the word “go”. And then the reveals. Can you imagine what would happen if Mercedes announced that they were revealing the future of their AMG vision, starting with their C and E-Classes, and handled everything like how GM just did? With MUCH lower performance figures to boot all in the name of affordability?

The business side of my brain understands why they’re doing what they’re doing, but it also sees how they screwed the pooch . My inner car nut/“Buy American” auto enthusiast is seething.

WilliamsSW > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:58

Came to post the same thing. These are V sports, not Vs. If this is as good as it gets, they’re DOA.

DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 19:58

That CT4-V is already my favorite new Cadillac since the unveiling of the original ATS back in 2012. Clean lines, and I love the specs. Where can I put down a down payment for one with RWD and SuperCruise?

WilliamsSW > PatBateman
05/30/2019 at 19:59

On the other hand, GM usually saves their biggest marketing fuckups for their best cars...

ASDF-12-34 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 20:02

As someone who had a part in developing these cars , I am deeply disappointed and frustrated at the naming strategy chosen for these low-hp “V” packages. /w orks forgm

PatBateman > WilliamsSW
05/30/2019 at 20:05

GM, as portrayed by Chris Pratt : “Look at our new hideous ass Chevy truck! Wow, everyone noticed! Great coverage! New features! WOOOOO LOOKY HERE AT THIS UGLY TRUCK!”

Also GM, being played by Eeyore : “Oh yeah, we have these two redesigned all-new luxury cars with bullshit engines. Someone light the sparklers. Woo.”

WilliamsSW > PatBateman
05/30/2019 at 20:07

Well they should be embarrassed when a regular ass BMW 340 makes more power.

Fuckheads.

uplatewithjeff > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 20:18

How can Cadillac be proud of this Bedazzled Saturn? Its simply awful. Seriously, h ow can they not know this?

GM keeps trying to take all the money out of making a car and wonder why there is nearly universal criticism.

A nother Genuine GM LOSER designed by lawyers and accountants.

GM The Mark of Ugliness.

PatBateman > ASDF-12-34
05/30/2019 at 20:22

Go slap whoever was in charge of this bullshittery for us tomorrow.

412GTI > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 20:28

Oh Cadillac..

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!
05/30/2019 at 20:31

I am sure it is much better inside than the ATS and it looks clean on the outside too. But are you ok with just 320/369 from a 2.7 4 cylinder truck engine on a “V” series car?

boredalways > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 20:35

Soooo...these are the V-sport variants, right?

right???

DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 20:35

Yes.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > boredalways
05/30/2019 at 20:37

These are authentic “V” series high performance vehicles, I assure you

Kinja'd!!!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 20:42

So let me get this straight: The ATS-V’ s successor has reportedly almost 140hp LESS, and the CTS-V’ s is DOWN BY 50%???

I haven’t drank enough tonight to read this right.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
05/30/2019 at 20:44

It’s like someone slapping on M3 badges on their 330i

boredalways > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 21:01

Kinja'd!!!

MrSnrub > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 21:12

I get why people are mad about the apparent power downgrades but what GM is doing here makes some sense to me: compare the HP figures with those for the Audi S3 and S4. I suspect that’s who GM is targeting with these. I would have preferred they were called V Sport since the classic V Series in the past was more RS/M grade, but I get it.

CRider > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 21:29

This truly is the worst timeline.

Spanfeller is a twat > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 21:33

Why do I find this good looking? what is wrong with me...

BeaterGT > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 21:36

Remember when they put Corvette engines in Cadillacs? Good times.

QCGoose > dogisbadob
05/30/2019 at 22:42

I’m getting strong “ BMW 5 Series GT” vibes from the CT5, and that is absolutely NOT a compliment. Gross.

BahamaTodd > boredalways
05/30/2019 at 22:55

Yes, but they’ve been rebranded as V with a higher performance version to come.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/30/2019 at 22:57

This is platinum tier upbadge slut- shamming, by an OEM of all people.